{"id":1224,"date":"2022-11-24T09:51:23","date_gmt":"2022-11-24T09:51:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/?p=1224"},"modified":"2026-03-18T22:47:14","modified_gmt":"2026-03-18T22:47:14","slug":"el-planeta-2021-a-conversation-with-amalia-ulman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/el-planeta-2021-a-conversation-with-amalia-ulman\/","title":{"rendered":"El Planeta (2021): A Conversation With Amalia Ulman"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>As part of our new partnership with Mubi, we had the exclusive chance to speak with Artist-turned-filmmaker Amalia Ulman about her feature debut El Planeta. This dark comedy, set in Amalia&#8217;s childhood town Gijon, is a fresh twist on the precarious economic conditions the working-class can find themselves in. In this candid interview Amalia shares what it was like to make her first film, co-starring with her mother, and why her work across different mediums is so narrative driven.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You can enjoy 30 days free of handpicked cinema at <a href=\"https:\/\/mubi.com\/lab111\">mubi.com\/lab111<\/a>, including Amalia Ulman&#8217;s El Planeta (2021).<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-fill\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-text-color has-background wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/nl\/podcast\/celebrating-cinema\/id1558165273\" style=\"color:#000000;background-color:#ffc8dc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/nl\/podcast\/celebrating-cinema\/id1558165273 noopener\">Subscribe to our podcast<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: El Planeta (2021): A Conversation with Amalia Ulman \" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/6mVnMptjtI1bHjLBNu3yTj?si=uhHQA8s3Rda9tzuP18MkOg&#038;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"on-our-next-episode-on-our-next-episode\">Our Guest<\/h3>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Amalia_headshot_01_BW_3x4-1-768x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1229\" srcset=\"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Amalia_headshot_01_BW_3x4-1-768x1024.png 768w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Amalia_headshot_01_BW_3x4-1-225x300.png 225w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Amalia_headshot_01_BW_3x4-1-1152x1536.png 1152w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Amalia_headshot_01_BW_3x4-1-1536x2048.png 1536w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Amalia_headshot_01_BW_3x4-1-500x667.png 500w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Amalia_headshot_01_BW_3x4-1-1140x1520.png 1140w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Amalia_headshot_01_BW_3x4-1-360x480.png 360w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Amalia Ulman\u00a0(born 1989) is an Argentinian acclaimed artist and film director based in New York City whose practice includes\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Performance\">performance<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Installation_art\">installation<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Video_art\">video<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Internet_art\">net-art<\/a>\u00a0works. Her work deals with issues of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Identity_politics\">class, gender, sexuality<\/a>, and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Middlebrow\">middlebrow aesthetics<\/a>.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Amalia_Ulman#cite_note-1\">[1]<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Amalia_Ulman#cite_note-2\">[2]<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Amalia_Ulman#cite_note-lab-3\">[3]<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0In 2021, Ulman made her feature film debut, with\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/El_Planeta_(film)\">El Planeta<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Partnership with MUBI <\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We are delighted to announce our new partnership with <a href=\"https:\/\/mubi.com\/showing\">MUBI<\/a>, a curated streaming platform. You can watch Amalia Ulman&#8217;s feature debut El Planeta (2021) now on MUBI. Enjoy <a href=\"https:\/\/mubi.com\/promos\/lab111\">30 days free<\/a> of hand-picked films discussed in the ongoing podcast series, a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lab111.nl\/\">LAB111<\/a> podcast celebrating the intricate wonders of cinema. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"films-mentioned\">Films mentioned<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>El Planeta (Amalia Ulman, 2021)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Girls Always Happy (Yang Mingming, 2018)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"our-hosts\">Our hosts<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-4 is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"413\" src=\"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Tom-1024x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-413\" 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Set in her childhood town of Gijon, the film is a dark comedy about economic precarity that refuses to sentimentalise the working-class experience. Shot in black and white, co-starring her own mother, El Planeta arrives from a practice of digital self-invention that predates the discourse around online identity by years \u2014 and translates that sensibility into cinema with disarming precision.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1166,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"page\/page-gutenberg.php","format":"audio","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_crdt_document":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1224","post","type-post","status-publish","format-audio","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-episodes","post_format-post-format-audio"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1224","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1224"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1224\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2049,"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1224\/revisions\/2049"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1166"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1224"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1224"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1224"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}