{"id":745,"date":"2021-11-11T07:27:25","date_gmt":"2021-11-11T07:27:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/?p=745"},"modified":"2026-03-18T22:47:14","modified_gmt":"2026-03-18T22:47:14","slug":"gagarine-2020-a-conversation-with-fanny-liatard-jeremy-trouilh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/gagarine-2020-a-conversation-with-fanny-liatard-jeremy-trouilh\/","title":{"rendered":"Gagarine (2020): A Conversation With Fanny Liatard &#038; J\u00e9r\u00e9my Trouilh"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"with-the-release-of-their-feature-debut-gagarine-2020-in-cinemas-here-in-the-netherlands-we-spoke-with-directors-fanny-liatard-jeremy-trouilh-to-discuss-the-duality-of-paris-captured-on-screen-we-explore-how-their-magic-realist-drama-bridges-the-tensions-between-the-romanticised-dreamlike-city-and-its-neglected-suburbs-united-by-a-universal-ability-to-dream-and-the-importance-of-utopian-images-with-special-thanks-to-cinearte-for-organising\"><meta charset=\"utf-8\">With the release of their feature debut Gagarine (2020) in cinemas here in The Netherlands, we spoke with directors Fanny Liatard &amp; J\u00e9r\u00e9my Trouilh to discuss the duality of Paris captured on screen. We explore how their magic-realist drama bridges the tensions between the romanticised dreamlike city and its neglected suburbs, united by a universal ability to dream and the importance of utopian images. <\/h5>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"with-the-release-of-their-feature-debut-gagarine-2020-in-cinemas-here-in-the-netherlands-we-spoke-with-directors-fanny-liatard-jeremy-trouilh-to-discuss-the-duality-of-paris-captured-on-screen-we-explore-how-their-magic-realist-drama-bridges-the-tensions-between-the-romanticised-dreamlike-city-and-its-neglected-suburbs-united-by-a-universal-ability-to-dream-and-the-importance-of-utopian-images-with-special-thanks-to-cinearte-for-organising\">Special thanks to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cineart.nl\/\">Cin\u00e9arte<\/a> for organising this episode.<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-fill\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-text-color has-background wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/nl\/podcast\/celebrating-cinema\/id1558165273\" style=\"color:#000000;background-color:#ffc8dc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/nl\/podcast\/celebrating-cinema\/id1558165273 noopener\">Subscribe to our podcast<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Spotify Embed: Gagarine (2020): A Conversation with Fanny Liatard &amp; J\u00e9r\u00e9my Trouilh\" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/3ZeG9vyTwewJG0e6F1rkA3?utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"film-club\">Film Club<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With Gagarine&#8217;s nationwide release in The Netherlands, we of course urge you to go watch it having listened to our conversation. We also recommend a couple of companion pieces that are being screened at LAB111, both <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lab111.nl\/movie\/holy-motors\/\">Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)<\/a> &amp; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lab111.nl\/movie\/la-haine\/\">La Haine (Mathieu Kasovitz, 1995)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"on-our-next-episode\">Next episode<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The gang is back together to discuss their &#8220;guilty pleasures&#8221; in film and those really bad films that end up winning you over. Expect a certain someone to be adverse to this idea of there being such things as &#8220;guilty pleasures&#8221; in cinema, and also how such a philosophy can influence one&#8217;s very own film taste. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"films-mentioned\">Films mentioned<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><meta charset=\"utf-8\">(click on the links for tickets to screenings at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lab111.nl\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.lab111.nl\">LAB111<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Gagarine (Fanny Liatard &amp; J\u00e9r\u00e9my Trouilh, 2020)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lab111.nl\/movie\/holy-motors\/\">Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Mauvais Sang (Leos Carax, 1986)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Les Amants du Pont-Neuf (Leos Carax, 1991)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Les Aristochats (Wolfgang Reitherman, 1971)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Le Bossu de de Notre Dame (Gary Trousdale &amp; Kirk Wise, 1996)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Le Fabuleux Destin d&#8217;Am\u00e9lie Poulain (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lab111.nl\/movie\/la-haine\/\">La Haine (Mathieu Kasovitz, 1995)<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Les Mis\u00e9rables (Ladj Ly, 2019)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Lazzaro Felice (Alice Rohrwacher, 2018)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"our-hosts\">Our hosts<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery alignwide has-nested-images columns-4 is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1600\" data-id=\"413\" src=\"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Tom.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-413\" srcset=\"https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Tom.png 1600w, 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150w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Elliot-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Elliot-1536x1536.png 1536w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Elliot-500x500.png 500w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Elliot-1140x1140.png 1140w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Elliot-400x400.png 400w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Elliot-700x700.png 700w, https:\/\/celebratingcinema.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/CelebratingCinema_BW_Elliot-480x480.png 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/figure>\n<figcaption class=\"blocks-gallery-caption wp-element-caption\">from left to right: Tom Ooms (film programmer), Hugo Emmerzael (film critic) Kiriko 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